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To All Here..... just a question....

by 7robert7 in

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i'm just curious as to how many ex-witnesses here still believe in the god of the bible ?

and how many, due to the societies teachings have given up on god all together ?

Mommie Dark

The Society had nothing to do with my rejection of the Bible and its vicious god. That came years later, after I learned how to think and research on my own, after years out of the Tower searching for answers. WHen I realized what a truly horrible book the Bible is, and what a vicious selfish maniac Jehovah of the Bible is, it wasn't hard to figure out that the whole thing is just based on superstition and fear.

The Watchtower is just one of many evils perpetrated on the world by religionmongers.

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Blood Update

by Lee Elder in

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dr. muramoto and myself have had to take a step back to care for personal.

issues but we hope to be back to full speed next year.. we have completed work on a major article to be published in an american.

medical journal later this year.. i am nearly done with another article on the blood issue for a different.

Mommie Dark

Lee said, "I was intrigued by a newsreport today concerning a new law passed
in Connecticut that makes it illegal for principals, teachers, counselors and other
school officials to recommend to parents that their children take psychiatric
medication for behavioral or learning disorders. The law effectively prohibits
school personnel from practicing medicine without a license. The law is the
first of its kind in the U.S."

It's about time! As a parent of two ADHD sons, I heartily applaud this legislation. I've been screaming about this since my kids were in school and I had to deal with various boneheaded academicians who think Ritalin is a magic bullet to miraculously control all sorts of non-comformist behavior in troubled kids. Teachers fatuously suggesting sotto voce to distraught parents that a trip to a certain pediatrician who is 'friendly' to 'these families' might get some instant relief in the form of those Mother's Little Helpers. Teachers and other school personnel getting downright shirty when informed that they are in fact giving medical advice to these families. I can't tell you the number of distraught parents I heard from during my activist years; a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and most school personnel have precious little actual knowledge about ADHD, although they fondly imagine that one in-service seminar on the disorder qualifies them as experts.

There are a number of other neurological and emotional disorders that share certain symptoms with ADHD. Diagnosis is not simple, and ruling out all other causes of these symptoms is a job best left to the experts: in this case, ONLY a neurologist can diagnose ADD with or without hyperactivity. ADHD is a handicapping mental disability and only a qualified specialist should deal with diagnosis and treatment.

There is no 'cure' for ADHD, and drug therapy doesn't work wonders for more than a small percentage of patients. A combination of intensive counseling, drug therapy, and classroom modifications to accomodate the child's handicap may result in success; however, school personnel not only try to railroad families to go for the fast fix, they tend to be downright hostile to kids who don't respond well to drug therapy alone, considering clinical suggestions for classroom modification to be interference in their province. They consider ADHD a behavioral disorder, environmental in nature, and refuse to acknowledge the actual physical mechanism that causes the brain dysfunction.

I have known families where Ritalin and other stimulants did not have the desired effect; these kids are often subject to a roulette of antidepressants and other mood altering drugs, often at the insistence of harrassing school personnel, when in fact what they need is more classroom assistance and some multisensory reinforcement of lessons, nothing more.

It's a volatile issue for those involved. I'm so happy Connecticut has taken this first step; I hope other states follow in short order. You would be appalled if a teacher told you your child needed surgery; why should you swallow other medical advice from a grade school principal or teacher?

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Pregnant JW murdered, child cut out from belly

by bboyneko in

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i was reading about this in the mirror-universe db greatcrowd.com (there is a mirror universe bboyneko there complete with goatee and a mirror universe fredhall who is an intelligent dog and a mirror univrse dunscott who is dumb as a doornail, e.g: concering duuuuuuuuuh).

apparantly a pregnant jw lady had met another pregnant woman from her same neighborhood and they chatted a bit, later the jw family put up a car for sale and the pregnant neighbor came down to check it out.

then she got the jw to her house and killed her, and cut out her baby.

Mommie Dark

They have hearts of stone. The grieving husband and father waited just seven months before marrying a new Jdub bride to tend the infant and wash his skidmarks.

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Spouse & Child Abuse - JW style -experience

by waiting in

i received this through e-mail on another forum "pioneeroutreach".

fascinating, horrible, reading.

it's long - but guaranteed to leave you thinking "what the ........".

Mommie Dark

I just wanted to interject an observation here: this woman has run up against academia and been treated to some school district 'good ole boyism'. Although schools pay good lip service to 'being there' for kids reporting abuse, there is a time-honored tradition of CYA among their own. Her experience is not unique.

In Akron OH last year there was a case where a guidance counselor was seducing teen boys and actively stalking at least one of them; when two boys complained, they were both promptly expelled from school for trying to damage the man's reputation! I know the parents of one of these young men; the frustration was incredible, it ravaged their family. A bright talented young man ended up dropping out of school literally weeks before his graduation. The pervert was only brought to justice when it was revealed that he had been accused of fondling a grade-school child 20 years earlier in the same school district; the district's response was to transfer both teacher and student to different schools! When this bit of information came to light, the school was forced to investigate the perv, and suspended him pending the legal proceedings. Once the investigation brought the stalking and phone harrassment to light, he was nailed. Lawsuits against the district are still pending. It took a tremendous amount of negative publicity for the district to even admit there MIGHT be a problem with their procedures, even though there was a past history of cover-up.

I have no trouble believing that if her ex is relied on for critical service, the district wouldn't hesitate to try to strongarm this woman into shutting up. Especially if she's ever had adversarial encounters in the school related to her Jdubdom (and if she's been homeschooling there may be some contempt directed over that too).
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I once knew a Jdub whose ex had incested their daughter. She told me "I knew something was wrong when he quit wanting to have sex with me. Well, he had him another woman." She meant her ten-year-old daughter! I was horrified, and said so. I told her that wasn't another woman seducing him, it was the innocent victim of a horrible crime! THIS WAS A REVELATION TO THE SMEGGING COW! I can't tell you how outraged I was by her attitude. She had expressed this idiot notion in talking to elders and NOT ONE PERSON EVER DISABUSED HER OF THINKING OF HER DAUGHTER AS A RIVAL!!!!!

I don't know if it's dubdom that makes these women clueless, or if clueless people just naturally gravitate to high control groups. I do know that given the ignorance and denial of this woman, her kids don't have much in the way of chances. I sincerely hope she finds better counsel than what she'll get from Watchtower drones.

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Russell as "That Servant"; Re: Dunsscot

by AlanF in

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since dunsscot claims he's leaving this board, and in answer to my specific request for a committment to answer all replies i might give to his latest replies to my previous dissections of his nonsense he said that he would not, i won't be giving a detailed reply to him.. however, dunsscot's posts contain a number of statements that prove how easily the watchtower society fools the jw community by lying to it, either outright or in so many words.. in this post we will examine a fiction that the society has managed to get poor people like dunsscot to believe with respect to c. t. russell, namely, that russell never claimed that he was "the faithful and wise servant" of matthew 24:45. the simple truth is that russell did indeed believe it.

the fact that he did was printed in the watch tower, and the society itself taught it until about 1927.. let's first look at the context of dunsscot's denial of this important bible student teaching.

in the set of exchanges below, the reader can see that dunsscot is attempting to deny that jw leaders claim to be god's exclusive earthy spokesmen.

Mommie Dark

(clucks tongue in sympathy) Gee dunny it sucks to get called on your total lack of integrity, doesn't it? Now remember, you aren't an elder here either, so don't tell folks what to do! Pointing out your idiocies is not negative OR dishonest...but it is typical of your Jdub mindset to try to diminish your own culpability by pointing fingers. Strain that gnat dunnywiper!

LOLOL at dunny, who is one of the most stunningly dishonest pseudointellectuals Mommie has ever encountered. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

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Russell as "That Servant"; Re: Dunsscot

by AlanF in

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since dunsscot claims he's leaving this board, and in answer to my specific request for a committment to answer all replies i might give to his latest replies to my previous dissections of his nonsense he said that he would not, i won't be giving a detailed reply to him.. however, dunsscot's posts contain a number of statements that prove how easily the watchtower society fools the jw community by lying to it, either outright or in so many words.. in this post we will examine a fiction that the society has managed to get poor people like dunsscot to believe with respect to c. t. russell, namely, that russell never claimed that he was "the faithful and wise servant" of matthew 24:45. the simple truth is that russell did indeed believe it.

the fact that he did was printed in the watch tower, and the society itself taught it until about 1927.. let's first look at the context of dunsscot's denial of this important bible student teaching.

in the set of exchanges below, the reader can see that dunsscot is attempting to deny that jw leaders claim to be god's exclusive earthy spokesmen.

Mommie Dark

You can always rely on Duns to evade the facts. He can never be accused of honesty...

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HELP!!- JT asked to become a MASON!

by JT in

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i have been searching the net for some excellent sites on the masons.

this past weekend we went down to nc for a wedding and my wife and i broke the news to our nonjw family that we were no longer involved with jw.

i could not believe the open arm welcome my uncle and aunt were almost in tears- they told us we have seen you come home each yr from the main office in ny and then you got married and you would come home and we wanted to say something about the jw but you seemed to be so well respected by the local jw - whenever we would tell folks that our newphew was up in ny- the jw would get all excited- they told us they thought it was so sad for i only made $90 a month.

Mommie Dark

Don't know much about the Masons, James, but I do know that my husband's great-grandfather was a Mason for many years and his wife was in Eastern Star. We inherited some of their Masonic stuff recently. The Masonic Bible is a big deluxe version. I'll let you know if it seems to be too bizarre after I examine it. The only other thing I know is that the jewelry is pretty cool. Little gavels, engineer's tools, that sort of thing, pins & tietacks etc. all of Masonic emblems. WHile researching the jewelry I found a couple of Mason websites but they don't tell you much do they?

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i gave my word

by teejay in

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ginny, you said, .

i understand the thinking, i guess, it's just that i was never (am not) that way.

if i am a laughingstock, it is only because i believed the way you presented yourself.

Mommie Dark

I can hear Denis Leary singing a song about Teejay...y'all know the lyrics, sing along!

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Newbies! The Deception:An Example

by zev in

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yesterday, in this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=9805&site=3 i spouted these words: happened to drag rays book, isocf from its hidding place in my car....at lunch time today.. i opened to any page, i needed to brighten my day like no other j-dub borg book, could ever do.. .

i found a deception for the many newbies, trolls and plants that have been visiting us here in spiritual paradise, aka:simons board .

i cant post it till tommorow, because i cant bring that book into the house while the j-dub wife is trolling around.

Mommie Dark

This one is particularly insidious, IMO, Zev, because it is a clear example of teaching KIDS to lie UNDER OATH!

When I was a kid interested in theater and music, I was told by an elder in no uncertain terms that the whole entertainment business was a waste of time, funded by filthy blood money. My mom was hounded to keep me from playing in the band or singing in the school choir. Did this attitude change after 1986? Why do I doubt that?

Can you imagine the way those kids must feel, lying in court, too scared of Jehovah's imminent wrath to tell the judge how much they hate the restricted JW life and what amount of coaching it took to get the answers 'right'?

I almost puked the first time I found the Custody booklet online.

A warning for you Zev: it never gets easier. The more you research the more deception you will find. The Society has a pattern of behavior; when I read the news articles about the building of the Patterson complex I was just sick at the way they manipulated events to make themselves look more 'normal'.

And JWs wonder why some of us are bitter and angry! Those of us who sincerely believed are the most sincerely shocked and outraged over the truly heinous behavior of those thugs in Brooklyn.

Shepherds wear wool and eat lamb. It would be good to remember that when dealing with self-proclaimed shepherds of men...

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looking for farkel

by teejay in

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is an example of farkel's work online?

if so, would someone please provide the link?

i've been told that it takes him up to a week to compose one of his pieces of work.

Mommie Dark

Teejay, you really are entirely clueless, aren't you?

I KNOW Giiny. I've LIVED IN her house. Our kids have played together. I've met her mom. SHE'S NOT A MAN!

YOu came right out and called me a liar over this, you smegging ratbag. One thing I am NOT is a liar. Ginny made a joke, you moron! A SMEGGING JOKE!!! But Clueless Teejay isn't about to let go his pitbull insistence because TEEJAY'S A A SMEGGING MORON!!!!! It matters little that Larc & his wife, Java, Norman, Alan F and his wife, to name just a few, have also met Ginny. Of course, Clueless Teejay will have to insist they are all liars too, won't he?

Some of us have been communicating online for YEARS, asshole. We've met one another, socialized, emailed extensively, helped and encouraged and swapped research for YEARS. When that histoy comes to a message board, it may seem to the clueless to be cliquish. It's not. That's YOUR inferiority complex kicking into overdrive. Your idiotic responses serve only to make you look like the jealous and uninformed BOOB that you truly are.

For the last time: Ginny T is not a man. I know you prefer to pretend she's a man because it conflicts with your sexist worldview to even imagine a woman could be that much smarter and funnier than you could ever dream of being. But again, that's YOUR inferiority complex rearing its ugly head.